Oftentimes, LGBT rights are presented, you know, as against nature or against common sense or against the family or against religion. I don’t think that most LGBT movements see themselves against the family. In fact, LGBT people have all sorts of really, you know, families that are, and they put a lot of thought into actually creating more safe families, creating more chosen families or families that work better than kind of the problems we’ve had with families in the past that involve a lot of misogyny, a lot of, a lot of lack of safety in many cases, you know. And so people are thinking about all of these things, maybe even making some of these things better, but they’re presented in these arguments as a threat to them. And I think that’s where the genuine concern with the family can be manipulated in a strategic way, actually feel like there’s some kind of disconnect.